tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13622622.post2680663550722789515..comments2023-12-22T08:44:24.389-05:00Comments on threewayfight: Palestinian activists' statement denounces Gilad Atzmon's racism and antisemitismMatthew N Lyonshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15664330735255207352noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13622622.post-74226133163513945292014-11-11T23:06:56.592-05:002014-11-11T23:06:56.592-05:00Gilad Atzmon responded to Ali Abunimah, who is fir...Gilad Atzmon responded to Ali Abunimah, who is first on the list of Palestinian organizers named on this "Call for Disavowal of". <br /><br />Published on Mar 25, 2012<br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hrJcMO88EI&feature=youtu.be<br /><br /><br />In the above YouTube video clip, Gilad Atzmon deconstructs Ali Abunimah's attitude towards history and culture. Atzmon argues that if Israel defines itself as The Jewish State and its tanks are decorated with Jewish symbols, we must ask ourselves who are the Jews? What is Judaism and what is Jewishness? Atzmon attempts to identify the impact of Jewish culture on Israeli and Jewish politics. Atzmon believes that such an attitude is necessary in order to bring peace to the region and beyond.<br /><br />For Atzmon's speech, [to which Ali Abunimah responded a day later], see<br /><br /><br />http://youtu.be/MlvaN2c-Oto<br /><br /><br />...Abunimah suggests here [in this video] that history and politics are totally detached from culture. This is obviously an unusual stand that counters every intellectual and philosophical understanding of humanity, history, politics, as well as culture. Abunimah says "Talking about Jewish culture, is wrong because such arguments can be made about anyone. We could blame German culture for the history of Germany..."<br /><br />Someone should take the time and effort and suggest to Abunimah that this is exactly what intellectuals do. They search for the origin of political thoughts in culture, ideology, religion and heritage. Those who study the Nazi era, for instance, try to comprehend the exact impact of Wagner, the German Symphony, Protestant culture, German philosophy, Martin Luther's The Jews And Their Lies, Hegel and the German Spirit, German Early Romanticism, Lebensphilosophie, Heine, Athens vs. Jerusalem, and so on.Bernardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13622622.post-15664829301524964062014-11-09T21:18:06.064-05:002014-11-09T21:18:06.064-05:00The full text of "Granting No Quarter" i...The full text of "Granting No Quarter" is also posted to these websites:<br /><br />http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/palestinian-writers-activists-disavow-racism-anti-semitism-gilad-atzmon<br /><br />http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2012/03/palestinian-writers-activists-disavow.html<br /><br />http://kersplebedeb.com/posts/granting-no-quarter-a-call-for-the-disavowal-of-the-racism-and-antisemitism-of-gilad-atzmon/<br /><br />http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/02/421668.shtml?discuss<br /><br />http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/2012/03/granting-no-quarter-call-for-disavowal.html<br />(The above link has over 43 reader comments.)<br /><br />+++<br /><br />Gilad Atzmon responded to "Granting No Quarter" at:<br /><br />http://www.wrmea.org/action-alert-archives/to-disavow-or-debate-gilad-atzmon.html<br /><br />http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=469992<br /><br />+++<br /><br />Critics of "Granting No Quarter," and supporters of Gilad Atzmon, have responded. See the page below, and find a score of links, listed at the end:<br /><br />https://sites.google.com/site/onedemocraticstatesite/archives/writings-of-the-editor/ali-abunimah-and-gilad-atzmon-at-the-ok-corral<br />(Clarification to the first sentence in the link above: Ali Abunimah is one of 23 people whose names were listed alphabetically as signatories to this statement; it is authored by all of the undersigned.)Bernardnoreply@blogger.com