tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13622622.post3078541467590810651..comments2023-12-22T08:44:24.389-05:00Comments on threewayfight: Interview with an Antifascist Prisoner in SwedenMatthew N Lyonshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15664330735255207352noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13622622.post-91775635829849442312014-12-30T19:36:40.700-05:002014-12-30T19:36:40.700-05:00Joel, the anti-fascist activist, born in Chile, wa...Joel, the anti-fascist activist, born in Chile, was imprisoned in Sweden for twice stabbing a Neo-Nazi, from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Resistance_Movement" rel="nofollow">Swedish Resistance Movement</a>. According to the newspaper report below, he was sentenced to six years and six months in prison for attempted murder, assault, rioting and crimes against The Knife Act.<br /><br />Here are 4 newspaper stories, in Swedish, related to this case.<br /><br />http://www.etc.se/inrikes/35-aringen-i-karrtorp-domd-till-fangelse-drapforsok<br /><br />Joel, a 35-year-old in Kärrtorp sentenced to prison for attempted manslaughter. He stabbed a Nazi in connection with [i.e., when] the Swedish Resistance Movement attacked a manifestation of [anti-fascism in] Kärrtorp. [Joel acted in] Self-defense, he believes himself. Attempted manslaughter, according to the District Court.<br /><br />http://www.etc.se/inrikes/anvander-vi-inte-vald-mot-nazister-sa-dor-vi-sjalva<br /><br />"[If] We did not use violence against the Nazis, we die ourselves" Today falls [the] verdict against [the] 35-year-old [Joel] who stabbed a Neo-Nazi when an [anti-fascist] demonstration was attacked [by Neo-Nazis] in Kärrtorp. Now tell his friends to Today's [edition of] ETC [the name of the Stockholm Newspaper] why they are prepared to fight the [Neo-]Nazis with violence. Will he [Joel] be sentenced [in a way that] undermined the whole self-defense [argument]? <br /><br />http://www.etc.se/ledare/samhallets-ansvar-borjar-nu<br /><br />The responsibility of society begins now. The judgment against anti-fascist [Joel] who stabbed a Nazi is clear: To protect the demonstrators, [that's] the police's job. And isn't it time for the police to take that responsibility? Kärrtorp must be the last time Swedish society betrays those [like Joel] who stand up for democracy. <br /><br />http://stockholm.etc.se/nyheter/domen-mot-joel-paverkar-alla-antirasister<br /><br /><br />For information only:<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion#Sweden" rel="nofollow">Antifaschistische Aktion or AFA</a>, is the anti-fascist organization in Sweden. Wikipedia claims that “AFA's Activity Guide advocates violence against <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazis" rel="nofollow">neo-Nazis</a>”. “Critics say this [anti-fascist] group does not respect freedom of speech, because some members have attacked <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism" rel="nofollow">fascists</a> and other [Swedish] nationalists.”<br /><br />See also:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism#SwedenBernardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13622622.post-89924915841998310062014-12-29T15:17:49.798-05:002014-12-29T15:17:49.798-05:00Neo-Nazi activities in Sweden have previously been...<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism#Sweden" rel="nofollow">Neo-Nazi activities in Sweden</a> have previously been limited to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy" rel="nofollow">white supremacist</a> groups, none of which has more than a few hundred members. The neo-Nazi organizations, as of 2014, are the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_Swedes" rel="nofollow">Party of the Swedes</a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Resistance_Movement" rel="nofollow">Swedish Resistance Movement</a>.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/freejoel/posts/320812068106122:0" rel="nofollow">Here is another interview with Joel.</a> In this interview, Joel says: <br /><br />“antifascism is self-defense.”<br /><br />I don't understand what Joel means here with “self defense”! Is he speaking as an immigrant to Sweden?<br /><br />Joel says, Most people with a brain can see that we don’t want fascists marching in the streets, but that doesn’t make all of them antifascists. [end]<br /><br />I myself want to be anti-fascist and anti-racist. For that reason, I would not support what is advocated by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_Swedes" rel="nofollow">Party of the Swedes</a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Resistance_Movement" rel="nofollow">Swedish Resistance Movement</a>. But freedom of speech is how the public “with a brain” tests and chooses better ideas over time. I want to defend everyone's freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and freedom to march together in the streets. I would extend those freedom of speech rights to fascists, too. The way to kill a bad (fascist or racist) idea is with a better idea, and tolerating persons that hold what we may believe to be a bad idea. I hate the idea of controlling the thoughts and speech of someone else.<br /><br />I understand this view is controversial. Some here might disagree with the ideas here. That is your right.<br /><br />See also:<br /><br />http://www.legal-project.org/issues/european-hate-speech-laws<br /><br />http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/eu-unveils-planned-crackdown-on-free-speech/<br /><br />http://www.liberalinstitute.com/HateSpeechIsFreeSpeech.html<br /><br />http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/R/Tolerating_Intolerance_Why_Hate_Speech_Is_Free_Speech.shtml<br />http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/strwhe.htmlBernardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13622622.post-21068341512638861812014-12-27T12:16:17.160-05:002014-12-27T12:16:17.160-05:00Bernard, glad you liked the interview. Just to be ...Bernard, glad you liked the interview. Just to be clear, I didn't do the interview myself. It was previously made available on the Kersplebedeb website, and I've shared it here to help it reach a wider audience.Matthew N Lyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15664330735255207352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13622622.post-39965311647971969912014-12-23T19:43:56.013-05:002014-12-23T19:43:56.013-05:00Matthew:
Well done interview.
I am glad to read ...Matthew:<br /><br />Well done interview.<br /><br />I am glad to read that Joel was, apparently, not harmed by the fascists. I am sad that Joel was imprisoned for 5.5 years. He will not live with his son during those years....<br /><br />Like readers here, Joel rejects the biological allure that the Neo-Nazi mythology awakens in a small minority. Joel, like others, may feel he risked his life and his freedom to rebel, with a weapon, against that deep biological drive and Nazi mythology in a personal way.<br /><br />For eons, humans (and animals, too) have survived by excluding, oppressing, enslaving, colonializing, and killing other groups of the living.<br /><br />We humans can hope that times will change for the better. The change for the better starts each day with our own choices.Bernardnoreply@blogger.com